Brilliant, thanks for this. It's had to say who would win because they were both press. That if you hadn’t been so cautious in your second fight with Ali you might have won. He can still fight, but he needs to make the adjustments when he fights. I've been taking a back seat to everything in boxing. How is it accomplished? Even the ones who don't like me, I still love them. Against Foreman I couldn’t, for reasons that are again obvious, be happy with my strategy. You can be stronger than you were if you do the right things. Joe Smokin. 1. KN: Muhammad Ali has certainly not gone downhill. Joe Frazier Ken Norton Rules. As far as I know no promoter ever proposed such a match. JA: You held the title for seven years. If I hadn’t broken Ali’s jaw the first time, he might have won. Don't you know Larry Holmes was a sparring partner for Joe Frazier, Earnie Shavers and Muhammad Ali? Ali had 19 title . . Sandwiched between his first two meetings with "Smokin'" Joe, Ali had begun an unlikely rivalry with ex-Marine and former Frazier sparring partner Ken Norton. Back then everyone sparred everyone, even if a fight . ESNEWS. Brutal, but fantastic demolition of a boxing legend. I think it backs up what I said earlier that in a boxing sense they are very even. Frazier, Joe: 1. Have you made arrangements to insure your future? Don't you know Jimmy Young was a sparring partner for Joe Frazier. Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Larry Holmes & Ken Norton Sparring Partner Mayweather is Like ALI. He’s an exceptional athlete who has tremendous pride. Ali connects with a right to Frazier's jaw during their 12-round Super Fight II bout January 28, 1974. Boxing has been very good to me and I hope that I have always been a credit to boxing. He was married to Rose Conant, Jacqueline Halton and Jeannette Brinson. Among the fighters he trained are Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Larry Holmes, and Trevor Berbick, four of the five men to defeat Muhammad Ali.Futch also trained Riddick Bowe and Montell Griffin when they handed future Hall of Fame fighters Evander Holyfield and Roy Jones Jr. their first professional defeats. Joseph William Frazier (January 12, 1944 - November 7, 2011), nicknamed "Smokin' Joe", was an American professional boxer who competed from 1965 to 1981. Joe rose to the top of the heavyweight boxing world during the time of Ali's forced layoff. Gary R. Blockus, Of The Morning Call Lastly, 'The Easton Assasin' talked about the lead up to his fight with Gerry Cooney and the public's perception . In this http://www.esnewsreporting.com video we take a look at the story behind the story. Answer (1 of 8): Renaldo Snipes was a hard luck type of fighter with a very awkward style. Facing Ali is a 2009 documentary directed by Pete McCormack about Muhammad Ali (born Cassius Marcellus Clay, Jr. in Louisville, Kentucky) as told from the perspectives of ten opponents he faced during his career: George Chuvalo, Sir Henry Cooper, George Foreman, "Smokin '" Joe Frazier, Larry Holmes (also a former sparring partner of Ali), Ron Lyle, Ken Norton, Earnie Shavers, Leon Spinks and . Ken Norton (centre) with former trainer Eddie Futch (left) and Joe Frazier. Ron Lyle, Gerry Quary, Ken Norton are all guys who come to fight. He said he was ready to meet Muhammad Ali a third time anywhere. Source: East Side Boxing That night George Foreman was the better man. LH: June 9th, 1978, when I stepped in the ring against Kenny Norton for the heavyweight championship of the world. 4:12. Ken Norton Votes: 0 0.0% Joe Frazier Votes: 12 100 . The two grew to be friends throughout their careers. THE RING: Would you fight Frazier? The sparring partners that I had would beat the current heavyweight champions. "These guys are not even fighters man (laughing). Teenage crime, rehabilitation, Olympic gold, Joe Frazier for breakfast, Ken Norton for lunch, five fighters in one night and a Rumble in the Jungle was only Act I. But Larry wasn't, and Larry could also slug it out a lot better than Ali could. Not many fighters have been as fortunate as I am. I never turned anyone away for an autograph. 10 Comments Eddie Futch, George Foreman, heavyweight, Howard Cosell, Joe Bugner, Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Madison Square Garden, Muhammad Ali, rematch. I really have no special preferences as where a title fight should be held, as long as it’s held. My trainer, Bill Slayton, and myself would sit down and work out a basic fight plan for a third meeting with Ali. Ken Norton celebrates his 1976 victory over Ron Stander. Alas, Ali used "rope-a-dope" to wear Foreman down and knock him out. KN: As far as Caracas is concerned, that’s water over the dam. Analyze Foreman – has he changed in any way since your meeting? This work covers the individuals and events of what most consider to be the greatest era in boxing history. 9:11. Did you ever go back and get your degree? A lot of people make plans, but God is the ultimate one who makes the right plan. He boosted his earnings with sparring work against the likes of Joe Frazier, . Under what conditions would you do so? 6:09. The sparring partners that Muhammad Ali had would beat these guys. If you don't believe . I know what I did as a fighter and my record speaks for itself. A few months later and "The Greatest" had agreed to meet Norton in the ring, as the bout was cemented to be held at the Sports Arena in San Diego, with Ali's NABF heavyweight title on the line. There have been many new scripts I have read, and I am interested in a couple of them, but the boxing comes first. how Norton and Frazier fought wars in sparring. They faced each other in the ring twice, but they weren't really rivals otherwise. Do you watch movies of your opponent’s fights? George Foreman vs Joe Frazier HD. The sparring partners that I had would beat the current heavyweight champions. Answer (1 of 2): Joe Frazier did not duck Ken Norton, Larry Holmes, or Ron Lyle. PAUL SYKES SPARRING JOE FRAZIER (AND JOE BUGNER TRAINING) FOR THEIR UPCOMING FIGHT 1973. If you were being charitable, Norton was viewed as a stay-busy opponent for Ali in their first encounter, but if you were being cynical, it was an unforgivable mismatch. Follow us on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/seckbach.Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/EsNewsReporting.Beats In these videos are from http://www.hooksandbeats.com by producer Jason-xWe also produce the Robert Garcia Reality Show here's the link to playlist - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLACAD803266666667don't forget to sub http://www.youtube.com/esnews THE RING: Who makes up the strategy as you prepare for a coming fight? Frazier is 7 to 2 favourite to retain his title though Foreman's record is good. I'm still a dummy and I didn't further my education. Don't you know Jimmy Young was a sparring partner for Joe Frazier. I have my health, and I did have my ups and downs, more downs than ups, but I thank God because he is the one who makes the plan in my life. Muhammad Ali ( 1942-2016), considered the greatest heavyweight champion in history by many in the boxing world, engaged in a verbal sparring match at a National Press Club luncheon on August 27, 1976, with his upcoming opponent, Ken Norton Norton was Frazier's top sparring partner for years though, and those must've been like actual fights because Frazier never took it easy on anyone. George Foreman vs Ken Norton (Highlights) Boxing Legends. Eddie Futch knew Joe could never beat Ken, so he wouldn't allow the fight to happen. Eddie Futch (August 9, 1911 - October 10, 2001) was an American boxing trainer. Muhammad Ali and Ken Norton at the National Press Club, August 27, 1976 . Lavenia Mclain. LH: No. THE RING Many fighters die broke. by don colgan. All they want to do is look good and collect a paycheck. Norton had been sparring with Frazier before the Foreman fight but when the camp moved to Jamaica, Frazier's trainer, Eddie Futch, pulled Norton to one side, told him he was relieved of his duties . Frazier's rise good for Ali Philadelphia's Joe Frazier was Ali's most notable opponent. I’m very serious about my acting career and have been taking lessons whenever I have the time. My primary goal is to become the champion. Just a month after that last win over Joe Bugner in Las Vegas, which was a 12-round decision, Ali was . He was not averse to the proposal. Photo from The Ring archive. I can read well enough to know what I want to eat. KN: I have already gone on record as saying that if getting a title shot with Ali is predicated upon me meeting George Foreman to get it, then I am ready to meet Foreman now. After losing to Frazier, Ali rattled off 10 straight wins between July 1971 and Feb. 1973. Planet Boxing by Johann Zuers. KN: I don’t think that Foreman would have a better chance against Ali in a return fight. How are you going to fight these guys who are crazy, tough and don't give a shit? zntent. LH: I love all my fans. Editor’s Note: This feature originally appeared in the January 1976 issue of The Ring Magazine. Those are the names that I can call off the top off my head that would beat the hell out of these guys. LH: Because I'm not as smart as the other guys. JA: The toughest fight in your career was? THE RING: Do you feel you have gotten a fair shake out of boxing? Ron Lyle, Gerry Quary, Ken Norton are all guys who come to fight. KN: It was a longtime coming but I started so late, I had to go to school to learn. Whatever his plans are, that's what happens. I did what I thought was necessary to win both fights. Maybe if I did turn people away, maybe the fans would have respected me more. Ken Norton's troubles did not come from pugilistic dementia, but a terrible car accident, and a series of strokes later in his life. He was mainly as a sparring partner for Joe Frazier, the first man to beat Ali. THE RING: Analyze Ali – Is he going downhill? I have good business advisors and have not thrown my money around. Join our newsletter to get info about latest events and deals! As a result, the "Ken Norton Rule", which limits participation of an athlete to a maximum of four . Looks like a proper sparring session too, shame it wasn't longer footage. Norton knocked him out easily many times. That's what I did and it worked for me. On . These heavyweights today don't want to fight. 06-28-2006, 03:23 PM. Two sparring partners, Ken Norton and Billy (Moleman) Williams, joined him. If he doesn't get in shape, then he can't be ready for Kenny Norton, Joe Frazier or George Foreman. George Foreman and Joe Frazier were contemporaries in boxing, with both fighters fighting in their primes in the '60s and '70s. What makes him great – if you think he is? He didn't boast. The body will tell you don't run these many miles or it will tell you to eat this and don't drink that. LH: These guys are not even fighters man (laughing). I was in between a rock and hard place. If so, why? He knows me very well, and we have a tremendous rapport. THE RING: There has been talk that you are more interested in your career in movies than your boxing profession? 19:23. THE RING: What happened in your Caracas fight Foreman? But head to head, as they showed against Ali, there wasn't a lot between them. The remaining two sparring partners have also received some tough treatment from Foreman. LH: No, not necessarily looking back on the business adventures, but I'm lucky period. Naturally, I would love to fight in San Diego, where I have many fans and where I built my career. The sparring partners that Muhammad Ali had would beat these guys. 4:48. For anyone who bought a ticket to see me win or lose, I appreciate it because you're the ones that spent your hard-earned money to make me money. People in all walks of life die broke. Ernie Terrell, Zora Foley, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Ken Norton, Ron Lyle, Joe Bugner, Earnie Shavers, Oscar Bonavena, Jerry Quarry. If so, what is your response to the show? When you quit school, your choices are limited to playing sports. His lone defeat was dealt by Ken Norton, an ex-sparring partner of Frazier, on March 31, 1973 in San Diego which he avenged six months later on September 10 of the same year. LOS ANGELES, Jan. 27 (UPI)—Ken Norton, who will try to take George Foreman's heavyweight title March 26, picked Joe Frazier today to win by a knockout in tomorrow night's fight with Muhammad Ali. Sometimes he looked more like a karate fighter (without the kicks) than a boxer. That's the way Smokin' Joe was breaking down his toughest opponents. I didn't fight Ali because I liked him or disliked him; I fought Ali because they were giving me 3 million dollars. Following the maiden defeat of his pro career against Joe Frazier, Ali was on a 10-fight win streak with a record of 41 wins and 1 loss at that time. LH: I was always athletic. Having secured a 9 round TKO over Henry Clark, Norton bagged the fight against Ali. Check it out!JA: A real pleasure to speak with you Larry. Re: Footage of Frazier and Norton sparring. According to an explosive new study out of Australia, more damage is done neurologically from sparring than from fights. Don't you know Larry Holmes was a sparring partner for Joe Frazier, Earnie Shavers and Muhammad Ali? Answer (1 of 5): Joe Frazier never fought Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson, Ken Norton or Earnie Shavers for different reasons: 1. In this http://www.esnewsreporting.com video we take a look at the story behind the story. Ken Norton was born on August 9, 1943 in Jacksonville, Illinois, USA as Kenneth Howard Norton. World Heavyweight Boxing Champion, Joe Frazier has said he will prove that no man can knock him out when he defends his title against fellow American, George Foreman in kingston, Jamaica on Monday (22 January) night. Me trying to make people like me, the more they hated me. Brilliant, thanks for this. I don't believe anyone around him is telling him that he needs to make the adjustments. Lennox Lewis, George Foreman, Joe Frazier Knockouts Losses. He was in camp for one reason, to prepare his body and mind for the most important night of his career. Either you get kicked out of school or you quit; those were my choices. © 2021 RING TV LIVE. He also reached back in Manila against Joe Frazier when it seemed the fight was lost. The great ones have this ability, so I would definitely call Ali a great fighter. Ali’s a fighting champion and he’s never ducked anyone before. LH: No, it was an easy choice for me. A lot of people who drop out of school don't make it. Don't you know Larry Holmes was a sparring partner for Joe Frazier, Earnie Shavers and Muhammad Ali? He knows as well as the fans that I am deserving of a title shot. 23:37. The paydays would eventually get better, but for the time being, Holmes was paying his dues while serving an apprenticeship as a sparring partner for the likes of Ali and Joe Frazier. Bob Biron, my manager, makes the business deals and if he feels the terms for a Foreman fight, or any other fight for that matter, are equitable, I go to work. Have you been watching boxing recently and if so, what are your thoughts on the heavyweight division?LH: I don't watch boxing too much, only when I can. "He is better than Joe Frazier, Jerry Quarry, Sonny Liston—any of them." "He is better than Joe Frazier, Jerry Quarry, Sonny Liston . Up front, Les Pelemon, the lead singer in Frazier's rock band known as The Knockouts, slid behind the wheel and began to . Jerry Quarry: Listed as between their first and second matches. Those are the names that I can call off the top off my head that would beat the hell out of these guys. winces as Ken Norton lands a punch during their . Would you do it again? People go to college all the time and they too don't make it. Joe Frazier Vs George Foreman I Fight of the year 1973 ~ Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Larry Holmes amp Ken Norton Sparring Partner Mayweather is Like ALI. Re: Footage of Frazier and Norton sparring. We discuss the films we watch and evaluate from there. His track coach entered him in eight events, and Norton placed first in seven. Ken Norton celebrates his 1976 victory over Ron Stander. He was selected to the all-state football team on defense as a senior in 1960. Frazier was a simple, uncomplicated person, totally apolitical, the complete opposite of Ali. Norton landed two right jabs to Joe's face, then connected with a stunning left hook to the point of the former champion's chin. My other men, like Thell Torrence, who has been a longtime friend and assistant trainer, and close buddy, Hedgemon Lewis, are aces. McFarland, Mar 29, 2013 - Sports & Recreation - 324 pages. Stylistically I think Joe is a nightmare for Ken and would have broken him down. George Foreman vs Joe Frazier II (Highlights) Boxing Legends. GET THE LATEST ISSUE AT Of course, Frazier knew something Ali didn't — that Norton was a formidable foe, his development no doubt accelerated by a $400-a-week gig as a sparring partner for Frazier in Philadelphia. : Joe Ryan. Few were so fortunate. And – if you do not get a crack at Ali, might you consider chucking boxing and turning all your activities to acting? Frazier is generally considered the greater of the two and would rank higher in just about any sort of comparison. Sonny Liston. Mike Tyson. Why does he have to weigh 225 pounds now? I thought they didn't show me enough, but that's okay. KN: Win! It was . Answer (1 of 4): The main reason they never met is because they were friends. People who didn't give me the credit that I deserved as a fighter. He avoided Shavers like the plague, as did George Foreman, because they were offered relatively nothing to fight him, and he was dangerous at any price. Would the fight be easier for you than Ali? ESNEWS. There have been many stories about what happened in Caracas, but I make no excuses. I don't know what they did to be smart, but they got people to like them. It's a wonder Frazier left Jamaica alive. Jimmy Young was also one of Frazier's top sparring partners. George Edward Foreman (nicknamed "Big George") (born January 10, 1949) is a retired American professional boxer, former two-time World Heavyweight Champion, Olympic gold medalist, ordained Baptist minister, author and entrepreneur. February 2, 2021. I can't read and write real well. I played football, baseball and wrestled real well. Norton (left) goes at Ali in their second fight in Los Angeles Photo from The Ring archive. In any case, it was just not my night. You can’t become a champion on a part-time basis. They faced each other in the ring twice, but they weren't really rivals otherwise. He’s also punching better now because he has come down off his toes and plants himself. My trainer, Bill Slayton, is the most underrated, under-publicized trainer in boxing. THE RING: If given a shot at Ali without having to meet anyone before, how much would you insist on receiving and do you have any preference as to where the fight would be held? I don’t think anyone knows what his loss to Ali has done to him. Foreman would have to get back on the winning track against a couple of contenders first to ever make me believe otherwise. Ken Norton vs George Foreman 1974 03 26 full fight. Heavyweight Boxing in the 1970s. Joe Frazier hace Sparring con Ken Norton, previo a la pelea de Frazier contra Jimmy Ellis #Boxing #Boxeo Norton, the former champion and a sparring partner of Joe Frazier, had fought many of the best in his era including Jimmy Young, Earnie Shavers and George Foreman. Here is The Ring’s interview with Ken Norton as he gave it, question and answer: THE RING: Will Ali give you another chance? He also fought Ali three times, the first on March 31, 1973, in which he famously broke Ali's jaw as early as the second round. More brain damage is done to boxers in sparring than in fights. His sparring partners, who included Don Warner, light heavyweight Ray Anderson, Billy "Moleman" Williams, and a very talented heavyweight from San Diego named Ken Norton, paid the price for . . KN My trainer, Bill Slayton, who has helped me considerably since we got together almost two years ago, works up pre-fight strategy together with me. I’m a positive thinker and the possibility hasn’t even entered my mind, nor will it! KN: It isn’t true that I’m more interested in my movie career than my boxing career. . Don't you know Jimmy Young was a sparring partner for Joe Frazier. That first historic Ali vs Frazier confrontation in 1971, without question one of the biggest sports events of all-time, took. But I must give boxing my total concentration right now. KN: I feel very fortunate to have Bob Biron, a respected businessman from San Diego, a sincere manage who cares. Ali had a lot of trouble with Joe because he was easy to hit with a left hook. Futch was the trainer who developed the strategy that Joe Frazier used to defeat Ali in 1971 and who guided Ken Norton through three bouts later in the decade. Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Larry Holmes & Ken Norton Sparring Partner Mayweather is Like ALI. They would have made good sparring partners for me and that's it. If I didn't make it in boxing, at least I tried to make it. What was the toughest thing you went through during your time as champion?LH: Dealing with people who didn't believe in me. Ken Norton: Ken saying "After three rounds with Frazier, boxing Godzilla for 10 rounds was nothing!" Source: Going the Distance : The Ken Norton Story 2. Their bond continued past their retirements until Frazier's 2011 death.Although they were close, Foreman refused to attend . August 8, 2021 August 9, 2021 Lee Wylie 2 Comments Eddie Futch, Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Muhammad Ali There's never a bad time to pay tribute to an all-time great trainer and boxing genius, but with tomorrow being the anniversary of the birth of the one-and-only Eddie Futch , now is a better time than most. These heavyweights today don't want to fight. Some of the people drive trucks for a living. He has always tried to give me proper advice and has gone through some very trying times on my behalf. Joe and I are very close friends and no amount of money would make me want to fight with him. I was focused on doing what I had to do and that was keep winning and moving forward. "In sparring, Ali would throw the punches at you, but if he hurt you he'd slow up. . THE RING SHOP (CLICK HERE) All rights reserved. Norton landed two right jabs to Joe's face, then connected with a stunning left hook to the point of the former champion's chin. He wouldn't have been able to beat those guys without being in shape." I'm a fighter and I fight for money and if you give me the right money, I will fight anybody. Muhammad Ali. Few gave Norton a chance to beat Ali, who at this point in his career was attempting to climb back to championship form after losing to Joe Frazier in "The Fight of the Century" on March 8, 1971. Frazier, Joe: 1. Foreign country, U.S. or even some particular city in the U.S. KN: I don’t discuss money. Or has he? Many people feared for Muhammad Ali before his meeting with Foreman in 1974. Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Larry Holmes & Ken Norton Sparring Partner Mayweather is Like ALI. Jerry Quarry: Listed as between their first and second matches. Can you account for your poor showing? Photo from The Ring archive. 14:39. THE RING: What would you do differently in a return with Foreman? They would have made good sparring partners for me and that's it. Norton was an outstanding athlete at Jacksonville High School in Jacksonville, Illinois. RandyMccloud71162168. It was much more lucrative to have them rematch with Ali, since they both had epic bouts with Muhammad. As much as getting a George Foreman interview was impossible, a talk with Ken . Photo from The Ring archive. Joe Frazier vs Ken Norton. Their bond continued past their retirements until Frazier's 2011 death.Although they were close, Foreman refused to attend . Victory can be achieved through SP/ UD or TKO/ KO. George Foreman Wikipédia ~ George Foreman est un boxeur américain né le 10 janvier 1949 à Marshall au Texas Boxant dans la catégorie poids lourds, il a notamment été champion olympique . He uses his head more, and this is where his experience and flexibility come into play. There's no losing if you don't try. He said publicly I would – I have to believe it. or Subscribe. KN: I have done very well financially and will do better. I can box and fight, and we will use whatever formula or combination thereof that it takes to win. Larry Holmes: Source: Larry mentioned it on Sky Sports' Ringside, among other places 3. Standard Boxing rules. bouts that never were: ken norton vs. joe frazier. LH: Walk quietly, but carry a big stick.JA: Is there anything that you want to say to your fans in closing Larry? The sooner, the better. Dealing with people who wrote shit about me and a lot of the stuff I didn't really care about. It’s very difficult for me or anyone else to really analyze George Foreman because he’s been inactive. From the 1900s until the 1980s, some of the biggest legends in boxing trained at resorts in the Catskills, including at . Both fighters weighed in at a ready 225 pounds. From the archive: Ken Norton discusses Muhammad Ali, George Foreman and Joe Frazier. Joe Frazier had declined to take part in the tournament that decided part of the championship after Ali was stripped of the title in 1967 . KN: I personally feel, and so do many boxing writers, that I beat Ali both times we met. Earnie Shavers was coming up in the rankings as Joe was in the later stages of his career; the timing simply was not right for matches with him; 2. His whole thing was getting in shape. George Foreman destroys KNOCKS OUT Joe Frazier KO brutalizes.
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